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	<title>Comments on: Alternative Solar Energy Mountain Cabin Project</title>
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	<description>Make solar panels yourself</description>
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		<title>By: DavesTreeFarm</title>
		<link>http://diysupersolarpower.com/308/alternative-solar-energy-mountain-cabin-project/comment-page-1/#comment-972</link>
		<dc:creator>DavesTreeFarm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Dec 2009 21:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those are Kyocera 85w/12v panels.  They produce about 5A each.  With about 5 hours usable sun = 100AH at 12v or about 10AH at 120v, which will give 5AH per day assuming a 50% depth of discharge (I&#039;m not even considering the loss at the inverter, etc).  That&#039;s not a lot of power.

As for &quot;free&quot;electricity;  Those panels are worth about $2000, and if those are true deep cycle batteries you can count on another $1000 to $1500 plus the inverter, charge controller, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those &#97;&#114;&#101; Kyocera 85w/12v panels.  &#84;&#104;&#101;&#121; produce &#97;&#98;&#111;&#117;&#116; 5A each.  &#87;&#105;&#116;&#104; &#97;&#98;&#111;&#117;&#116; 5 hours usable sun = 100AH &#97;&#116; 12v &#111;&#114; &#97;&#98;&#111;&#117;&#116; 10AH &#97;&#116; 120v, &#119;&#104;&#105;&#99;&#104; &#119;&#105;&#108;&#108; give 5AH per day assuming a 50% depth &#111;&#102; discharge (I&#8217;m &#110;&#111;&#116; even considering &#116;&#104;&#101; loss &#97;&#116; &#116;&#104;&#101; inverter, etc).  &#84;&#104;&#97;&#116;&#8217;s &#110;&#111;&#116; a lot &#111;&#102; power.</p>
<p>&#65;&#115; &#102;&#111;&#114; &#8220;free&#8221;electricity;  Those panels &#97;&#114;&#101; worth &#97;&#98;&#111;&#117;&#116; $2000, &#97;&#110;&#100; &#105;&#102; those &#97;&#114;&#101; &#114;&#105;&#103;&#104;&#116; deep cycle batteries &#121;&#111;&#117; &#99;&#97;&#110; count &#111;&#110; another $1000 &#116;&#111; $1500 plus &#116;&#104;&#101; inverter, charge controller, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: DavesTreeFarm</title>
		<link>http://diysupersolarpower.com/308/alternative-solar-energy-mountain-cabin-project/comment-page-1/#comment-971</link>
		<dc:creator>DavesTreeFarm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Dec 2009 21:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Burying the batteries is a good idea.  It allows for a constant temperature.  Heat limits battery life and cold limits capacity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Burying &#116;&#104;&#101; batteries &#105;&#115; a &#101;&#120;&#99;&#101;&#108;&#108;&#101;&#110;&#116; &#116;&#104;&#111;&#117;&#103;&#104;&#116;.  &#73;&#116; allows &#102;&#111;&#114; a constant temperature.  Heat limits battery life &#97;&#110;&#100; &#99;&#111;&#108;&#100; limits capacity.</p>
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		<title>By: tatonkazi</title>
		<link>http://diysupersolarpower.com/308/alternative-solar-energy-mountain-cabin-project/comment-page-1/#comment-970</link>
		<dc:creator>tatonkazi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Dec 2009 20:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The buried refrigerator truck box keeps the battery temp regulated. It works well. You are also correct in assuming that the electricity was not free. However, the panels were from a University project &amp; I got them at less than $200 apiece. Batteries are from a high-rise stand-by system where batteries are replaced every 2 yrs. Essentially unused in 1989 when purchased from a battery salvage company. The wiring is from oil drilling company salvage &amp; cost 2 cents per foot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#84;&#104;&#101; buried refrigerator truck box keeps &#116;&#104;&#101; battery temp regulated. &#73;&#116; works well. &#89;&#111;&#117; &#97;&#114;&#101; &#97;&#108;&#115;&#111; &#114;&#105;&#103;&#104;&#116; &#105;&#110; assuming &#116;&#104;&#97;&#116; &#116;&#104;&#101; electricity &#119;&#97;&#115; &#110;&#111;&#116; free. &#66;&#117;&#116;, &#116;&#104;&#101; panels &#119;&#101;&#114;&#101; &#102;&#114;&#111;&#109; a University project &#038; I &#103;&#111;&#116; &#116;&#104;&#101;&#109; &#97;&#116; less &#116;&#104;&#97;&#110; $200 apiece. Batteries &#97;&#114;&#101; &#102;&#114;&#111;&#109; a high-rise stand-&#98;&#121; system &#119;&#104;&#101;&#114;&#101; batteries &#97;&#114;&#101; replaced &#101;&#118;&#101;&#114;&#121; 2 yrs. Essentially unused &#105;&#110; 1989 &#119;&#104;&#101;&#110; &#98;&#111;&#117;&#103;&#104;&#116; &#102;&#114;&#111;&#109; a battery salvage company. &#84;&#104;&#101; wiring &#105;&#115; &#102;&#114;&#111;&#109; oil drilling company salvage &#038; cost 2 cents per foot.</p>
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		<title>By: tatonkazi</title>
		<link>http://diysupersolarpower.com/308/alternative-solar-energy-mountain-cabin-project/comment-page-1/#comment-969</link>
		<dc:creator>tatonkazi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Dec 2009 20:10:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Total project, inverter, controllers &amp; all was $2500 not counting our sweat equity &amp; the help of a few knowledgeable friends. The whole point is, where public power would have cost over $15,000 we made it happen &amp; our pay-back period to break even was less than 5 yrs even with replacing the batteries every 4 to 5 yrs. New technology is making this type of solution even more practical in todays energy world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Total project, inverter, controllers &#038; &#97;&#108;&#108; &#119;&#97;&#115; $2500 &#110;&#111;&#116; counting &#111;&#117;&#114; sweat equity &#038; &#116;&#104;&#101; &#104;&#101;&#108;&#112; &#111;&#102; a few knowledgeable friends. &#84;&#104;&#101; whole point &#105;&#115;, &#119;&#104;&#101;&#114;&#101; public power &#119;&#111;&#117;&#108;&#100; &#104;&#97;&#118;&#101; cost over $15,000 &#119;&#101; &#109;&#97;&#100;&#101; &#105;&#116; happen &#038; &#111;&#117;&#114; pay-back period &#116;&#111; &#98;&#114;&#101;&#97;&#107; even &#119;&#97;&#115; less &#116;&#104;&#97;&#110; 5 yrs even &#119;&#105;&#116;&#104; replacing &#116;&#104;&#101; batteries &#101;&#118;&#101;&#114;&#121; 4 &#116;&#111; 5 yrs. &#78;&#101;&#119; technology &#105;&#115; &#109;&#97;&#107;&#105;&#110;&#103; &#116;&#104;&#105;&#115; type &#111;&#102; solution even more practical &#105;&#110; todays energy world.</p>
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		<title>By: mrsparex</title>
		<link>http://diysupersolarpower.com/308/alternative-solar-energy-mountain-cabin-project/comment-page-1/#comment-968</link>
		<dc:creator>mrsparex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Dec 2009 19:38:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good simple video...thanks /encouraging</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#69;&#120;&#99;&#101;&#108;&#108;&#101;&#110;&#116; simple video&#8230;thanks /encouraging</p>
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		<title>By: AtvProjects</title>
		<link>http://diysupersolarpower.com/308/alternative-solar-energy-mountain-cabin-project/comment-page-1/#comment-967</link>
		<dc:creator>AtvProjects</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Dec 2009 19:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very Nice:) I was thinking of putting a train cart Box(I think that&#039;s what there called) and almost doing the same thing but all the way underground and a ladder down, good thing i Didn&#039;t. I love the Solar Panels:) I wish i had them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very Nice:) I &#119;&#97;&#115; thinking &#111;&#102; putting a train cart Box(I &#114;&#101;&#99;&#107;&#111;&#110; &#116;&#104;&#97;&#116;&#8217;s &#119;&#104;&#97;&#116; &#116;&#104;&#101;&#114;&#101; called) &#97;&#110;&#100; nearly doing &#116;&#104;&#101; same thing &#98;&#117;&#116; &#97;&#108;&#108; &#116;&#104;&#101; way underground &#97;&#110;&#100; a ladder down, &#101;&#120;&#99;&#101;&#108;&#108;&#101;&#110;&#116; thing i Didn&#8217;t. I &#108;&#105;&#107;&#101; &#116;&#104;&#101; Solar Panels:) I wish i &#104;&#97;&#100; &#116;&#104;&#101;&#109;.</p>
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